I wonder what the admission body of IIIT Bangalore think of thousands of enthusiastic aspirants who apply with for their institution.They just play with the emotions and aspirations of hundreds of average students and they leave them high and dry.
This is my view on How the IIIT B admission body and professors think of and deal with the process in one of the most unpopular way.
Total around 5000 applicants for 120-130 seats.
They start of saying that they give a waiver to applicants GRE and GATE , although they dont give a exact score of the cut off. In the 5000 many students with lots of hopes and aspirations apply for waiver and anxious wait for 30 days long only to find out that just a few made it thorugh the waiver. All the students who have got waiver are only GATE students with mostly above 95% and GRE around 1280 and more.
Now the worse part starts. They conduct an Exam for around 900 students and invite 500 of them for the interview.
The total number of people invited for the inreview are 673 for just around 120-140 seats. Apart form the elite 150 best students very other person comes with lot of hope and aspiration to the interview.
In this 673 poeple invited , around 30-40 people have around 1 or 2 years of experiance in some of the wonderful so called MNCs. Around 50 -60 people have more than 96% in GATE . And around 50 or so college toppers ot top 5% from some of the local engineering colleges.
50+50+40=140 seats, the equations ends here. But you may wonder why the rest 533 have been called.
But , these people invite over 673 people to get enough press coverage , to boast of themselves to the MNCs about their selection process and lastly to show of their infrastructutre to all the aspirants and their parents and give a wicked smile like if u dont get here u are missing everything in life.
Now about the rest 533 students. Every one comes here waiting 3 months long for the D day from distant places with their parents and a glitter in their eyes.
The thing is these people select people on 3 criteria
1)Either you should be having a very strong GATE score
2)Either very strong academic profile with near to distinction ,around 72-75%(JNTU)
3)Or experiance in top Notch MNCs.
They blough and raise the expectation in thousands of yound minds saying that its a combination of interview,academic performance,communication skills and passion that takes into IIIT bangalore.
Its a complete blough.
People with excellenet communications kills and no GATE or Good academia or not in.
Poeple who worked hard in their projects ,but no good acdemia with not in.
Poeple who havent fared well in Btech (but still with first class),but developed a strong pasion for Mtech are not in .
But they say they chose according to this criteria for admisions which is a complete blough . With many profesors and directors at such a wonderful level , they dont think about the responsibility they have. Why do they call these many people for interview when they jus select the students on just 3 criteria. Why do they just raise the expectations of many normal students by jus asking them to come to interview after a a very lame exam and send them back? why do they want to play with the aspirations of many young students and their parents.
Ok its enough till here. Now the other side.
All the people who are selected now have a discussion whether to join here or not.
1)A GATE 98 or97% will be thinking of NITS or IIIT
2)Poeple will be thinking wther IIIIT h or IIIT B
3)After attending the interview and getting admission people from Oracle come and ask is it advisable to leave the job and come
4)People start saying that i wont have scholarship so i dont think i l go for IIIT B.
This is what people discuss after getting into IIIT B.
and now come the seniors to boast and boost the confidence of IIIT admits and it ends there.
But i seriously ask a question to the admission body of IIIT Banagalore why do they call every person for the interveiw when they already know whom to select. Why do u dissappoint hundreds of average students and parents.
Why cant they give admission to 100 high profile students and 40 average studnets who have good comitment towards Mtech.
No they dont, they take only the best and then boast and leaving the all the rest highly disappointed.
Many reputed institutes like IIIT H , or IITs never do the kind of stuff you people do.
I hate your admission procedure . Itcreate a kind of depresion by doing all this calling people for interview and rejecting them right through and playing with their aspirations for 3 months.
They just take the best , they boast we have the best . Thats it
Why do you think IIIT H calls around 200 students and give sthe admissio for 100.
Why dont u maintain such standards , u call every tom dick and harry showing some bright hope and leave them with a pre meditated intention of just selecting people with best acdemia.
If you have strong concern about the acdemia you should have mentioned it righ that poeple with 70% or more or required.
Its just not my voice its the voice of 533 aspirants and their parents.
Correct voice of 533 students !!!
Even they have not informed students about their rejection. Is this the same standard as IIIT-H and other Institutions ?
Admission procedure is also not transparent, no display of whole merit list of selected students, neither second merit list is displayed (if it’s prepared).
A senior at iiitb was telling that even that the placements r v bad
even though they claim 100% placemnts some got placed in comp which offers only around 30k/month after mtech
and one more thing in most good companies an iiitbian is paid half of what they pay for an iittian
people r simply getting brain washed they dont even know the facts
Hi…..I read your blog…….just need to share few things with you and other people. Its always easy to blame the other side….and that too in a situation where you are not aware of the facts….but first be clear on the point on which you are blaming the organization. People out there who took your interviews are not kids to whom you are going to tell the procedure of selection. You guys are saying about selection criteria of other top notchs like iits n iiith…….fine…..ask them about their criteria and way of selection….revert it back if you get any response about the way they select students…..!!Each institute has a way to judge/select students…..!! you can’t tell an examiner how to evaluate your answer sheets in examination!!
Regarding the intv call of 673 students……y do u feel like these 523-533 were useless fellows………!! These 533 students had an equal chance of competing with any other student called for the intvw…..those who performed well got thru……!!
“one more thing in most good companies an iiitbian is paid half of what they pay for an iittian”………boss who gave you all these crap stats…….!!…….companies look for skills dude……not for iiitb or iit!! you said abt 30k/month job……find out how many landed to this category at iits……m sure u ‘ll fine some “unfortunate” iitains there also. M not having any intentions of argument here….but be sure on wht you say!!……..Its good that you are motivated towards masters……..but you can’t just show your motivation by saying that I am motivated…….u need to support your statement with the relevant work…..n this is where point of difference comes into fact!!
dude…
the selection procedure is not fare..
my interview was gr8.. nd got appreciations..
i may not have 70% in my btech… but still i ve done an research project with iiit hyd.. which shd improve my ratings.. am a scjp holder.. nd am a tech adviser for UNEP, represented India at tunza international youth conference. awarded as best aspiring software engineer from my college.. gud at programing nd got many prizes in various programing contests at national level…
U know.. none helped me getting a seat in iiitb… i mentioned them not to boast myself…
two of my frnds got the seat… after completely spoiling the interview.. they never expected the seats..
but the puppets with 75% in engg. got it…
If % is the main criteria.. they shd have mentioned it b4.. i wud never have expected… the prerequisite is said to be 60% and none with less than 70% got a seat… what does this mean… think of it again… there are enough stats b4 we state…
In JNTU based colleges.. 70% is a dream… that too in cse stream you shd not even expect…
various unwanted factors effect ur %…
in my class only 4 students got more than 70%…
@Pie
Its very disheartening to hear you case our profile. If what you said is really true , u deserve more than IIIT B.
Jus dont regret it ,IIIT b shd regret it.
Its really a blunder on themselves, thats what i was saying they dont give opportunities!
I was not even asked to say the Tech topic, and much to the worse i was asked 2 qs on project , and not even a single question in a single academic subject!
Hello Anurag
““one more thing in most good companies an iiitbian is paid half of what they pay for an iittian”…”
Regarding the salary part
This particular part has been posted by one of the readers of the blog, not by myself, that is the author.
I think u might have jus gone through the post in lot of hurry.
I will summarize a few points.
1)I ve always respected the intellectual capability of the professors. I am absolutely no one before them.
What i ve put down is the interview procedure.
They called 670 odd people with various profiles , but atlast they have chosen students with
1)Good GATE scores.
2)Good 70 or more percent
3)Job Experienced Profiles.
But they invited every one all way to banguluru.
I ve never said the remaining 550 students are useless. U ve completely got it in the wrong way.
When they know whom to select ,why did they invite everyone and send them back.
Yes as u said the motivation should be inspired by work.
The thing i mentioned here is about opportunities.
Work doesnt mean academics. In universities like JNTU u will know what work is and what marks is.
and one thing tell me names of atleast 15 students who hav below 70 acads and hav been taken becoz of the so called “work”! I think 15 is a bigger number , ok then 5 !
Of course the way the blog is written is in more of vent and frustration but its not far from facts!
@Vasu
I do agree that calling 673 students was not a good idea. It could have been filtered down. But i dont agree to the other reasonings.
Out of 673 ppl, all the 673 ppl are passionate about doing MTech (thats the reason they have applied). Regarding their selection procedure, i could not find any other way of filtering out students. Anyone can have a good day in the interview, deserving students can have a bad day. So the selection had to be based on several things like previous academics, gate/written test score, interview.. It was a combination of all this which was the selection procedure. I dont find anything wrong in this too.
@Vinay
Its not about having a good day or bad day dude.
IIIT B filtered students in a way that if you hav good acads every other thing doesnt matter .
Hardly show me 10 students out of 200 students below the 70% mark and made it.
If thats the case why do the IIIT B people boast that they consider all things and why do they call students , just jus to leave them high and dry!
If you jus below the 70 % they dont even consider you for a chance. Its not my case, there are many cases, i could write a book on that .
well……….nyways……….its your point of you……….!! n yes…..I can’t tell u those 15 names….This is not the matter of JNTU or any other university……!! But I can make you sure about few of them who got into coz of their “work”(you said it right buddy sometimes Work doesnt mean academics)…….n they are doing xtremely fine here!!….Again no hard feelings….my views may differ from others…!!
Dear XTREME
I will delete this post if you can show me 15 students who ve got into IIIT b this year becoz of their wonderful work they ve done in Btech , and with 60-65% acads.
Prove me wrong by jus getting 15 people with the above profiles. Check it once you will get what IIIT B meant in its policy and what it actually did to itself
Come on, 15 out of 200 is very meager dude! But still i l stick to my word.
if u have that knowledge of getting good scores in GRE & GATE ,y do u apply to iiitb.
Every one listen he is bloughing….dont listen to him
Hello “INDIAN”.
You sound absolute foolish and silly . I jus still approved your comment only to show the “rationale” of the people supporting IIIT B ADMISSION PROCEDURE.
Sorry for sounding harsh , if u ve got into IIIT B go and ask them why people with 96 and 97 percentiles in gate joined in IIIT B.
Please note i ve never said anything bad about IIIT B as a institute. I still have high regards. Its all about their admision procedure.
But u urself a supporter of IIIT B , you are putting down the image of IIIT b by saying that why wd people having good gate scores apply to IIIT B.
Time for you to think again.
ritely said dude…
they simply play with emotions..
i ve also heard that.. iiitb employed seniors to give more hype in the social networking sites like orkut nd facebook.. so that they can get more ppl..
last year 30 seats were left vacant nd this was the worry of iiitb board…. for this they have requested a comity of students to create hype…
the directors comity did their purpose…
iiitb have 300 students…. but why do only karthik nd swetha work on orkut… they are in the directors comity who were asked to do this job..
For ppl with 90-95% gate score..
do ruin ur score for iiitb… nits and iits are far better…. it doesnt mean iiitb is not gud.. its good but it has got lots of hype.. understand that… i ve done lots of research b4 posting this..
iiith is far better.. nd dont even compare iiitb with nits nd iits….
I guess answering silliest queries there at orkut community was sheer waste of time for guys like you.Those who think that they were doing it for creating hype. They tried hard to answer all your queries so that you don’t face any problems during examination and interviews. man I should feel sorry for them….really.
The concern here is regarding the admission procedure.
Its not about seniors .
I request the readers not to mention any kind of negative remarks on seniors. I dont see any fault with them. They have been fabulous.
Such remarks are just diluting the cause , the cause is about the admission procedure, not about Seniors and other thngs.
Hi friends,
I am Karthik, the person Mr/Ms Pie was referring as iiitb employee
I have nothing to reply Mr/Ms Pie rather than pity on him/her. He/She don’t know what IIITB is and who Prof. Sadagopan is. I don’t have any clue of your gender
Coming to point. I have no hard feelings against Vasu. The issue which he has raised is valid. He is accusing college “Having decided the selection criteria, why are you calling people who have not satisfied that criteria to interview and waste their time?” Very much valid.
FYI, i have raised this issue to the management. I don’t know whether they don’t have reply or they don’t wish to reply. I can only raise the issue.
And thanks to friends who have defended for me.
Its natural that the students who are studying there will never criticise there college iiitb.Seniors help in the community like orkut,facebook etc should not effect much on individuals choice.It is YOU who have to decide what is wrong & what is right.
no doubt a time was there when avg package at IIITB was around 5-6LPa.But due to present condition students of IIITB 2007-09 are facing severe problem in final placement.IIITB has good infrastructure,professors,courses etc. but there placement is poor.At the end of masters everyone want plum salary except few students 10-20% who would like to go for research or higher studies.Then what about others?
Some fact of IIITb is that every year after taking admission & paying huge amount of fees some of the students leave the college.Reason?Heavy stress on students where they have to cope up with projects,assignments,tests etc irrespective of there stream in Btech,Masters etc & apart from this those who are in IIITb are higly dissatisfied.
Students like us are confused at this stage what to choose if they have choice between IIT & IIIT?which is rediculous..There is no comparison of any of the IIT with IIIT.When you go for any top notch unversity across the Globe brand name still matters..IIT is IIT & nothing can replace it.
Think before taking any step for your future.Good luck!
IIITB is any day better than all the NITs. A comparison of the faculty profiles in NITs and the placement data for M.Tech. CSE students in NITs with that of IIITB will show that IIITb is way ahead. Most of the NITs have achieved very low percentage of placements in 2007-2009 batches for M.Tech. students.
There is no point in criticising IIITB without any data. NITs admit students purely based on GATE score, and does not check communication and other soft skills.
If somebody can present data about any NIT with better faculty profile and placement record for M.Tech students compared to IIITB, please post it here.
IITs and IIITH are definetly better than IIITB, since they have good faculty, a solid track record and reputation.
There is nothing wrong with the selection procedure of IIITB, since even IIMB gives a lot of importance for consistently good academic records.
IIIT B doesnt stand far behind from NITS. They strongly believe academics are a true reflection of students.
Regarding the GATE comparision even IIT take the GATE score and achieve wonderful placements.
IIIT H stands far ahead of IIIT b not only because of faculty. The students they take are thoroughly tested and taken in . Not basis on lame academic percentage
Dude, u r speaking of frustation i guess.
But whtvr i cud jst see thru ur posts:
Firstly thy may call 600 or 900 or whtevr the number may be if u have potential u shudnt be afraid of numbers. Admission process will not be according to u. thy cant decide before hand whch students to intake nd spirit of competition shud be thr. In iims 2000 students fight for 1 seat nd u r afraid of jst 600 ppl.
Secondly on jst basis of communcation skills nd ur dedication fr mtech will not land u a seat in good colg in mtech. combination of both knowledge nd ur communication nd how u present on D day(interview) matters.
thirdly telling about placement 2007-2009 has yet not started nd durin intern only 3-4 students hav got offers above 10 lpa. from adobe nd cisco.
Fourthly iiitb doesnt want u .u want admission ovr thr. no1 forcefully told u to gave exam fr it… nd ys if u r capable fr going to iit u mst go fr it as it is definitly better nd thr the first barrier is 98%+ gate score.
best of luck nd njoy!!
@Rahul
u clearly missed the essence.
2000 “CAT applicants” contest for a single IIM seat!
Not that 2000 people are called for interview , for a single IIM seat!
The point is IIIT b knows whom to select and which criteria to follow. If they want a strong 70% why did they call 400 odd normal students and rejected everyone.
Ok if IIIT b is so concerned about Technical astuteness, why dont they conduct a good technical exam. They conduct a lame exam and alsmost invite all of us only to show off themselves and send us back.
They could have put the 70% criteria instead of saying that they consider whole of other aspects.
DO u know that i wasnt asked a single technical question in my interview and was sent of!!! Not atleast i was asked to present my technical topic which i came prepared.
@VASU
Srry dude, i guess u cant face d competition.
I dont knw who told u thy will be taking 70%+ students.
But i thing getting 70%+ is nt big deal fr gud student and ys 70% critereria is nt the only criteria.
y cant u understand thy r nt calling 600 ppl fr rejecting or taking ur money. thy r testing u thru interviews.
If u rejected tht means u r nt competent enough thn others simply.
@Rahul Jain.
U ve took lot of pain to write something without actually going through the blog or posts.
Its simple
Show me 15 below 70% students withouth GATE score who are in , i wll apologise and wil delete this block.
Ok i think u would find 15 out of 200 a pretty big num so
show atleast 10 below 70% and who are in i will delete this.
Basically they jus blindly took with 70%. there is no doubt in it. I challenge u.
hello friends,
At iiitb, they check your technical knowledge, academic record(whether u r consistent or not),communication skill,
other scores.Because in the campus there will be alot of pressure on u of your projects,assignments,demos…..,so that
u can cope up with the pressure.They give a chance to 600 odd people to show their capability,if you r capable and are in 120-140 then u will definitely get a seat.If some one is good in technical skill and have a consistent academic record then why not they prefer him.
IIIT-B is among top research institutes of india.
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIBG/2009/06/13&PageLabel=2&EntityId=Ar00200&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T
http://epaper.timesofindia.com/Default/Scripting/ArticleWin.asp?From=Archive&Source=Page&Skin=TOINEW&BaseHref=TOIBG/2009/06/10&PageLabel=1&EntityId=Ar00105&ViewMode=HTML&GZ=T
Placement: avg. is 5-6 lacs/A
But not getting a seat there, does not mean u r not capable of.Try other institutes definitely u will get a seat and can do better in your life.
With best wishes!